Start with Empathy: Hasan Ibne Akram

Show Notes

The mind of a scientist and the passion of an entrepreneur
How to get people to understand your message

Episode 146 (Hasan in based in Munich, Germany)

In this conversation with Hasan Ibne Akram we explore:

  • Why does an engineer need to be a T shape communicator?

  • How does a scientist talk to investors and get the money?

  • How  engineers and scientists can communicate with business executives

  • Why is empathy critical to effective communication and less stress

  • How to develop your empathy as a skill set

  • Stories, analogies and authenticity oh my!

  • Managing your perspective to change your world

About Hasan Akram:

Dr. Hasan is a serial entrepreneur. He is a computer scientist working in the domain of Autonomous Vehicle Safety. He is passionate about high performance.

He is the author of The Million Dollar Monk, which examines high performance.

Train your brain to overcome brain burn-out and leverage more of your brain's power with the use of science-based training programs.


Excerpts from this conversation with Hasan Ibne Akram:

Another amazing person that I have really tried to learn from him, who is an amazing communicator, and a scientist Neil deGrasse Tyson.

Neil deGrasse, Tyson takes those concepts of physics, astrophysics, that you that only a handful of scientists will be able to read in their journals. And he sells it to everybody.

And that is an amazing way of communicating. The recent book that I'm almost done with, I'm about to publish is called a brief history of autonomous vehicle, because that's the domain I work in.

And I really try to follow Neil deGrasse Tyson, because the book is or everyone. And that's like communicating at that level. So that everybody understands, is really the name of the game.

Because there was one joke, somebody said that, you know, we have such a good professor coming in that he's so good that nobody will understand him.

But that's not a good professor, a good professor, is one that even the guests will understand everything.

Terrific reminder, interesting analogy. Yes, he's so good that no one will understand him. And that's not something that anyone wants to have said about themselves.


I have to also train my people, don't give me the details, I only need three numbers because there are like 2000 things on my table. If I go to the details, there's no way I can.


First. I would say empathize - empathy, empathy and empathy.

Empathy is really the key. Once you're able to empathize, the second part is if you're if you're a leader, you have to be precise.

And one very interesting thing that the difference between leader and a manager, your job is not to give a task of a leader.

A leaders job is to give a mission, and how can you articulate that mission and the vision with your team, and somehow li that mission and vision with their life mission and vision, using empathy?

That's the formula and a curious challenge for all leaders out there and definitely something worth working on.



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